39. Q. Where did you go with Lieutenant Suffern in his car?
A. To the alley behind Stevens’s house.
40. Q. I now show you a map of the Frankford area of Philadelphia. Would you please mark on the map where you were taken by Lieutenant Suffern?
A. All right.
(See Map marked as Attachment 1.)
41. Q. And then what happened?
A. Mr. O’Hara got out of the car.
42. Q. Why, if you know, did Mr. O’Hara get out of the car?
A. He said he didn’t want his camera lens to become fogged as he was afraid it might if he jumped out of the car when the arrest was made.
43. Q. Go on.
A. I got out of the car too.
44. Q. Did you have Lieutenant Suffern’s permission to do so?
A. My orders were to accompany Mr. O’Hara. So I got out of the car too.
45. Q. What comment, if any, did Lieutenant Suffern have about either of you getting out of the car?
A. I seem to recall he told Mickey, Mr. O’Hara, to stick close to the wall.
46. Q. What, if anything, did you or Mr. O’Hara do at this time?
A. Mr. O’Hara wiped the lens of his camera with his handkerchief.
47. Q. And what, if anything, happened next?
A. I heard noise, what sounded like wood breaking, in the alley in the direction of Stevens’s house. After a moment, I detected movement in the alley.
48. Q. Had you, at that time, drawn your weapon?
A. Not drawn it. I had taken it from my ankle holster and put it in my overcoat pocket.
49. Q. Your weapon, was it in sight or not?
A. No. It was not.
50. Q. Why did you take your weapon from its holster and put it in your pocket?
A. Because I thought I could get at it easier that way if I needed it.
51. Q. Then you anticipated having need of your weapon?
A. No. I was just being careful.
(Chief Inspectors Lowenstein and Coughlin became additional witnesses to the interrogation at this point.)
52. Q. Did Mr. O’Hara see you take your weapon from your ankle holster?
A. I don’t know if he did or not.